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3am to 4am Spiritual Message Time

Morgan Moss

Posted on July 02 2015

I'm not a "like a log" sleeper. I toss, I turn, I have crazy dreams; some symbolic, some, just my brain having fun. But over the years, I've had one thing remain pretty constant when my head finally hits that pillow at night:

I wake up somewhere between 3 and 4 in the morning, on a pretty regular basis. I'll toss and turn for a little while, then my body heat will skyrocket, and after it goes down, shortly after 4am, I'm able to go back to sleep without a problem.

It's been happening for probably 10+ years now, ever since I truly found my spiritual path. 

I can remember explaining things to my friends when we lived in England over a decade ago, and they giggled as they told me quite matter-of-factly, "That's the time when the veil is the thinnest, love." What? Veil? Thought that was only on Halloween...

When we lived in England, I joined an amazing moot- a very eclectic group of pagans from many different spiritual paths. They held workshops, meetings, outings, camping trips, handmade goods fairs- I LOVED it; my soul was truly at home there. I learned so much about different beliefs, old-world philosophies and much more. I was finding myself spiritually,during this time, so I was a sponge who soaked up every bit of metaphysical information I could. I asked questions, researched, and immersed myself in the ancient spirituality that is found in England.  

They all knew about the 3am - 4am waking time, so they shared with me. (This was back in 2003ish, so while there was the internet, there was nowhere near the amount of information on the internet as there is today.)

Between 3am and 4am (some articles on the web today say 2am to 4am) in the morning, the veil between the spiritual realm and our realm is the thinnest. This isn't so much the same veil-thinning found at Samhain (Halloween), where past loved ones and spirits can communicate with us- this daily thinning is more for spirit guides, your higher self, and messages from the other side. 

I used to fight this nightly interruption, get really mad that I was up, yet again in the middle of the night. Once I found out that the wakings would continue until I opened myself to whatever message they needed to get to me, I stopped fighting and started listening. Sure enough, I was given a message- one that led me to the spiritual path I'm on to this day. 

Now, I don't fight the intrusion. I welcome it.

It doesn't happen every night, and when it does happen, the message isn't always clear, so sometimes they have to try a few nights to get things across. They're communicating across realms or dimensions, not just shouting from down the hall, so some patience is needed.

Over the years, I have found some tricks that have helped me receive the messages more clearly, and on the first try, so maybe the rest of my week is interruption free (unless they have more messages, of course). This is just what has worked for me:
  • Note the time of awakening. I have found that it's pretty much the same time each night. I feel this is because each guide has a "sweet spot" in the thinning of the veil, so that's the best time they can reach you. If you start to note the time, then you'll know when you are being awakened for a message, and not just because someone's car alarm went off outside.
  • Lie on your back and take 3 deep breaths. Center yourself and relax. I usually face my palms upward, just so I can receive any energy that might be heading my way. 
  • Concentrate on your third eye area, between your eyebrows. Continue to breathe smoothly.
  • Take note of anything that pops into your mind. Messages don't always come through as "Don't forget to take attend that natural healing convention next week." Usually, they are sent through as symbols, images, fragmented thoughts, etc that can all be pieced together to obtain the meaning. For me, I'm commonly sent images of animals or ideas for my store/blog/writing. In the morning, I'll look up the animal and find it's associated with an energy or idea I need to incorporate into my life at that moment. I love it when that happens.
  • When the images/thoughts/messages clear, you'll know it. I definitely recommend keeping a journal or notebook and pen on your bedside table, because you will want to write down everything you saw/heard/received as soon as possible. I don't even turn on a light most nights. I just open to a blank piece of paper, date it, and start randomly writing words down. It looks crazy in the morning, but the key words help trigger the experience, and our brain can put together the message after it's fully rested. Write down your interpretation of the message on the same paper the next morning, just so you can keep everything together to look at later, if need be.
  • Thank your spirit guide. This is pretty important. Please don't forget it.
  • Go back to sleep. If the message was conveyed, it will probably be no problem.

I do have 2 pretty important side notes that definitely need to be thrown in here:
  • More than likely, your body temperature will skyrocket. I usually break out into sweats, which last all of about 10 minutes, then things go back to normal. From what I've read, this is simply due to the surge of energy you'll get while connecting to the other side. Some articles state a rise in body temperature correlates to a rise in your body's vibration level- that makes sense, too. Whatever the reason, if an immediate torrential downpour of sweat bothers you, be sure to keep a towel near the bed. It will come on, stick around for 5-10 minutes, then go away as fast as it showed up. 
  • For me, things aren't always handled so smoothly in bed with simply deep breathing and opening myself to the message. I have felt the need to get up, draw, write, light candles, etc. So, while most of my nightly message deliveries come in the manner I stated above, some heavier messages require more to receive or truly understand them. As long as you don't fight it, and go with the flow of energy, sleep after the message still shouldn't be much of a problem. Your spirit guide or higher self isn't here to torture you with sleepless nights when they know you have a big meeting the next day; they simply want to get their message across to you, and once that is done, they help you with getting back to sleep. If you are up for hours after the message, that's on your own brain not being able to shut off, not on the message or messenger.
The more you go with the flow when a message comes your way, the easier they get. Then, one day, you'll wake up, see that it's your "sweet spot" time, deep breathe, open yourself, stick a leg outside the covers (helps me with the body temperature surge), receive the message, thank your spirit guide, write it down in the dark, roll over and go back to sleep- no problems at all. In the morning, you'll take a look at the chicken scratch on the page, decipher it and receive your message. 

This is all based on my own personal experience. I did research some (now that the internet has so many different sources for info, much more than 12 years ago) to see if I was alone out there with this waking time thing, and read tons of other people's experiences on the matter. Everyone's experiences are different, but sharing them helps people better process things when they happen.

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61 comments

  • Arlene Serrano: October 13, 2017

    Thank you thank you thank you a million times for this. This all makes sense to me. I’m not alone.

  • Julianna: October 11, 2017

    My son recently passed away a couple months ago and every night my husband and I are awaken with our truck alarm going off for no reason and this week I have been waking up at exactly 3 just laying there wide awake and go back to bed at 5. I believe it’s my little boy ❤

  • Kelly: September 28, 2017

    Will have to try the focusing thing. For weeks I’ve woken up at 3:40 every morning. Always 3:40, not 3:41, 3:39, and it drives me crazy. Will see if this helps.

  • Melissa Parkes : September 22, 2017

    Thank you very much this explains what has been going on for awhile with me now i know what to do love light and healing

  • Jon: September 20, 2017

    I usually wake up at 3 or 3 a.m all the time now I finally know what it means :)

  • Donna: September 15, 2017

    This all gives meaning to my sleep disruption…and middle of the night body furnace challenges. Wow…so helpful, thank you all!!!

  • Jess: September 14, 2017

    So happy to come across this article and all the similar experiences. I’ve always been someone who has woken up in the middle of the night, usually honestly any time between 1 and 5 am, depending on what time I fell asleep. Over the past month or so I have only been waking up between 3-5. I’ve noticed that there is an energetic presence in my room and I feel it very intensely at this time. I am unsure what it is but it makes much more sense that I am so sensitive to it at this time. It doesn’t seem malicious at all, but it does make it hard for me to fall back asleep because I am so focused on the presence of this energy because I have never experienced any connection or this much sensitivity before. I am 20 years old and have been going through deep spiritual transitions, much of it through reading books that are igniting this awareness within me. I had a crazy experience the other night when trying to fall asleep – there was a strange ringing in my ear that I have never heard before. Then suddenly I felt an energetic weight float over to and across my body – I turned over and it was gone. Since then I have had a heavy pull to stare at one spot in my room, especially in the night. I can’t see any shapes, just this strange sense of energy. Anyone else have experiences like this? It’s all very new to me to be this sensitive and it can be blinded by fear sometimes.

  • geri rose: September 13, 2017

    I sense cold so cold at night it wakes me between the hours of 0300 and 0400 (around 0346) I sometimes see a veil floating above me like a sparkling doily the kind grandma has on her coffee table. This cold happens even when walking in public places such as airports etc.. I also experience being so hot that it also wakes me. I have also heard my name called while being touched but im not scared of that only the veil and the tall thin black creatures (3) that have come with a short green orb that I can hear a wet kind of a breathing from. I lay and pretend im sleeping till they go away. I have told the veil to leave me alone and it goes away for years.These are just some experiences Ive had. Please any suggestions on how to handle the fear and possible entities? ANYONE?

  • Meredith: September 12, 2017

    It is the weirdest thing. I have been having extremely disturbing nightmares semi-regularly for the last 3 months, up until that point I rarely had bad dreams or dreams that I even remembered. Now it’s a nearly nightly occurrence and I find myself waking up from them at some time between 4:30am and 5:30am almost every night. I have that same body heat skyrocketing that you described.

    I’ve tried melatonin and valerian to get better sleep, but all those seemed to do was make it so I couldn’t remember the dream that woke me up. Like this morning, I knew that I had woken up from a disturbing dream that has left me out of sorts all day, but I couldn’t think of a single detail from it.

    Last week I started keeping a dream journal for the dreams I remember, which seems to help deal with the problem when I can remember the details…but the whole thing is just really unsettling.

  • Laura: September 08, 2017

    I’m scared. Every night I wake up between 3 and 5….. I cannot breathe when I’m stured awake. I’m gasping like I’m suffocating , I don’t know what is going on!!! This happen before about 4 months ago then it stopped but now it’s happening again!! I’ve went to the Dr to see if something was going on with my lungs but everything is fine. I’m not hot when I wake but it just feels like the air isn’t blowing cold even tho no-one is up to have messed with it and after i back to sleep it’s back cold when I wake up due to my alarm this time. Y’all I’m seriously freaked out by this and I need information! Can anyone help me please, I’m begging , I do not like the feeling that I’m suffocating !!

  • Yung: September 03, 2017

    It has been happening to me for sometime… But I don’t know the reason…. Thanks now I know what to do now

  • Ian: September 01, 2017

    Thank you for this article. I have been waking up between 3am and 3:30 am for years. In addition, I experience occasional sleep paralysis. Do you know of these are related in any way?

  • WanTing: August 27, 2017

    It’s funny I see your web name after reading everything else. I love it, thanks.

    I used to wake up in the middle of nights, having energy moving that leaves my body spasing. It was stronger in the earlier days, and especially in nights where I dance. Beautiful energy. Sometimes tiring. Sometimes this energy moves my body and leaves me in very sensuous moments and breath.

    These nights I’ve been noticing I keep waking before 3am. If I didn’t remember wrong, it’s usually 2.50+, if not 2.57.

    I don’t sleep early and no matter what time I sleep, I seem to wake near this time. It’s interesting a couple of days ago, I was at a talk and I could see what I perceive as people’s aura. My gifts tended to be in the body and in feeling. Sight was new to me.

    The last I woke around 2.57, I saw in the mind’s eye. Very clearly, a portrait like thing with faces flashing very quickly, morphing and changing. U think there may have been animals. I can’t be sure.

    Thank you for your gifts and sharing.

  • Sirena: August 25, 2017

    Thank you so much for this article. I have been waking up in the middle of the night ever since I can remember. Boy do I get hot! I feel like I am going to spontaneous combust. Last night I woke up and looked at my phone-it was 3:10 am. I immediately got the impression that this is significant. There is something to this. I am very grateful for your story because now I will follow what you have written. I was a little upset last night and prior evenings because I have to get up early in the morning and do not want to be up all night then try and go to work. The thing is…I really don’t sleep after being woke up. I will take the time to listen and journal. Thank you again! Namaste. Oh I pulled an oracle card and Listen is what came right out. Love and light Sirena xoxo

  • Mara: August 23, 2017

    It has been 10 years since i wake up at 3:30 am no matter if im in Canada or argentina. The feeling of my body on fire and my heart beating so hard it hurts. In the last year i have learned to feel ok with this hour. I am going to start to concentrate more, i feel more awake as time goes by but there must be something else

  • Lauren: August 19, 2017

    Thank you so much for this. I’ve been waking up around the same few times between 3 and 5, body heat skyrocketing so much so that my S/O will also wake up and see what’s going on. I always thought it was a sign that some malevolent spirit was around or something because I usually end up seeing a shadow standing close to my side of the bed that dissipates after a few seconds of me looking at it (maybe that’s my eyes playing tricks on me, but it happens so often??), but your article has really cleared this phenomena up for me. I hope that I’ll be able to effectively communicate with the spirits around me now. Thank you again!

  • Johanna: August 17, 2017

    Each time I wake up i always get the same words in my head. Read your Bible. As much as I dont get involved with the after life or another dimension kinds of things, does not cause me to negate the reason why Im waking up. I do believe, after this post, that as much as it can be physical issues it can also be spiritual as well. I believe thats why its called the “thin veil” because at that moment we are vulnerable for anything that comes our way.Talk,spiritual, getting sick,(vomiting) and is known to be the best time out in the air inhale/exhale to help the body heal from toxins.So,in my case I will jump to it from now on and : Read My Bible. Your information has been very helpful. Thank you.

  • Rochelle: August 10, 2017

    My nephew past away on 9 July 2017. Since then I have been waking up between 2am -4am and tossing turning to bed. sometimes drenched in sweat from getting super hot all of a sudden, usually doesn’t last long, then I see flashes of my nephews images. I would like to know what does this means or message?

  • Tamsyn: July 26, 2017

    This is great…thank you! I am going through my spiritual awakening and lately I have been waking up at 3am every.single.night…tonight I will meditate and be open to receive the message my spirit guide is trying to send me :)

  • Rochelle : July 16, 2017

    Iv been waking up after 3 am for over two weeks now i think and iv always heard its a spirit looking at you in bed..but lastnight i woke up but this time i didnt bother checking on the time which made me look up and find this page online so maybe its a sign to listen and hear what is given to me although im afraid of doing anything like this at night,iv been practising my third eye awakening as im always drawn to this but fear takes over but ill try x

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